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posted 05 January 2002 19:56      Profile for joeSA   Author's Homepage   Email joeSA   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Guys

I have been reading posts on this board for a while now and all the good reports I have read about chipping has got me interested.

I was just wondering if there are any South Africans that chipped their A3/S3?
Any info ,advantages,disadvantages etc. would be appreciated.

I am considering going to Chiplogic

Great Board guys.

Joe

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posted 06 January 2002 13:57      Profile for joeSA   Author's Homepage   Email joeSA   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Guess there are no South Africans on this board [Frown]
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posted 06 January 2002 14:19      Profile for S3-Maybe   Author's Homepage   Email S3-Maybe   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not a SA and don't even own a Audi.... yet! but im planning too in the near future.

I have been trawling the net and saving all the audi sites to my favourites..

one of them is a site, from Johannesburg,South Africa. I thought you might be intrested ?
LOOK HERE

and posts as " avdh " on Audiworld.com forums

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posted 06 January 2002 14:51      Profile for joeSA   Author's Homepage   Email joeSA   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanx for the link.Hope your name is changed to S3-Definitely [Wink] soon
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posted 06 January 2002 15:33      Profile for Wando™   Author's Homepage   Email Wando™   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
S3-Maybe, less of those Audiworld links please [Big Grin] I wouldn't mind if they weren't such a bunch of asses that run that site [Wink]

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posted 06 January 2002 16:31      Profile for joeSA   Author's Homepage   Email joeSA   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Actually I did get help from a guy called James on the Audiworld forum.But damn,there is no activity on the Audiworld A3 forum.
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posted 06 January 2002 16:57      Profile for S3-Maybe   Author's Homepage   Email S3-Maybe   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
S3-Maybe, less of those Audiworld links please I wouldn't mind if they weren't such a bunch of asses that run that site


sorry Oh webmaster [Wink] if it wasnt for that forum, i wouldnt have found this better one [Big Grin] I see your in my neck of the woods! Im only just down the road [wave]

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you'll probably catch andre (avdh) in the S6 forum here too [Wink]
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posted 07 January 2002 10:55      Profile for jabba     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Heya Joe,

Definitely an SA boytjie here man, but I drive an S3 so no comments forthcoming from me about A3 chipping...

Have spoken to a couple of guys who have done it though and the general consensus is BE CAREFUL! There's apparently only one place in SA which can do a proper job, and that's Sportech in Jo'ies, the rest seem to offer a Superchip kind of alternative.

I haven't heard many good things about either mind you, so if I was going to chip my car I'd ship it over to Amd in the UK and have a proper job done...

Lekker man, see you around the board!

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Hiya Joe,

I have had my A3 1.8T chip remapped by Sportech. The difference compared to freinds A3's is quite vast, however I also have some other mods (bigger intercooler, exhaust new plumbing). I haven't had any problems yet except for a little backfire when the engine is cold and I change to second (but dont know if this is due to the chip). The take of is a lot quicker (haven't measured 0-100 though) than standard A3's and I get much smoother power curves at high revs. A recent dyno reading gave me 105 kw at the wheels (on the reef with our shitty octane fuel) i will test it in Durban next time I am there though..should be much more impressive. The guy who tested my car said the Audi club A3's were only getting around 85 kw on the wheels....

If I were to do it again though I would probably have the ECU sent to Germany or the UK..they have been doing it a lot longer and seem to be more professional. In SA i guess your choices are Chiplogic (heard good things about them) or Sportech.

Hope that helps.

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posted 07 January 2002 12:28      Profile for joeSA   Author's Homepage   Email joeSA   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi guys

Thanx for all the replys.

I actually wanted to buy an S3 in Feb or March but then the rand situation made me reconsider.
So my options are Sportech,Chiplogics or to get it done in Europe or Germany.

I won't feel comfortable getting it done abroad coz if something goes wrong it's gonna be difficult to get it sorted out.
I will check out Chiplogics and Sportech, but if they are not up to the job ,then I guess I will have to forget about the chip [Frown]

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posted 07 January 2002 12:51      Profile for jabba     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello,

Ja, there's a guy who posts in the S6 forum and he had a Chiplogic re-mapping done, it sounds like this option is really just a new set of software which is added to the existing chip, (not a total ECU re-flash in the sense) and the car has to learn the way you drive etc. after this has been done.

Apparently the change is pretty good...

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posted 08 January 2002 07:14      Profile for joeSA   Author's Homepage   Email joeSA   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi guys

I read Andre's reports on his Chiplogic chip.
Sounds very promising.I also got alot of help from
a guy in Natal called Thierry. He was one of the first guys to put a Chiplogic chip in an A3 and he is very happy.So things are starting to point towards Chiplogic. I will go and see Chiplogic in February an then decide.If I do get the chip then I will post a full report on my impressions here.

Later
Joe

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Hi This is Thierry from Natal in SA I have done some major mods to my 1999 A3T, mods include water injection using the Aquamist system. 132 Kw / 282Nm Big improvement.Send e-mail if U are interested I will give details on the mods.

Great BB keep it up guys. SA boys lets start an Audi A3 / S3 club

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posted 09 January 2002 18:57      Profile for joeSA   Author's Homepage   Email joeSA   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good to see u joined the forum Thierry.
I think it's a good idea to start an
Audi-Sport SA group.

I have seen that the UK and the Aussie guys (and gals) get together once in a while and post the pics of their meets here.

But I am not to sure if there are too many SA boyjies on this board.So far it's u,me,Jabba and
GreenDemon.Oh and Andre (advh) at the S6 forum who
has really posted some terrific reports on this board and his site.Are there any others ...

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Yea Joe I agree lets give the boys and girls a wake up call and get the show on the road.

A3/S3 Rules

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Hey okes,

I'm keen man, I know of one other SA guy who is also a fundi, Stuart (posts here every now and then...) and he's always saying how we should stop by if we're ever in Knysna just to talk about cars etc. and I reckon a club would go down well here.

I've started noticing that all the okes driving S3's look like real prisses (in CPT anyway) so it would be good to get in touch with people who are real gearheads, surely lots of fun to be had.

I've been checking out the chiplogic site and it's sounds like a pretty tight operation, 190kx on the wheels for an S3 isn't too shabby, have you contacted Chiplogic for prices at all Joe?

It definitely sounds like a nice clean alternative. I'm glad Andre decided to post his views, they certainly help.

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Hi Guys

Stuart from Knysna, South Africa.

Had my A3T chipped (MTM)at Sportech AND at Chiplogic MTH).
Chip, Kingdragon panel filter and 57mm exhaust all done by Chad at S-T. Could not meet the promised 130kW at the wheels, so I wanted out, but eventually settled on a compromise of an MTH by OB at Chiplogic , who took the time to sort it, achieving 129.6kW (310.9Nm) compared to Chad's 127.5kW (313.7Nm).

This was on 98 octane shipped up from the coast, but when I checked the exhaust (Wildcat kak) back home, I discovered that it was literally a piece of shit. It had one section folded inward on a bend, reducing it to sub-50mm, explaining the problems they were having on the dyno. I eventually designed my own mandrel bend 63mm stainless exhaust, which significantly reduced otherwise noticable turbo lag and made a big performance difference to top end of the rev range .

Down at the coast, it would ping quite audibly on steep ascent if I did not change down on accelerating uphill, but according to MTM, who I contacted in Germany whilst arguing over performance targets with Sportech, they were experiencing major detonation on testing the vehicle, a problem which was largely cured by a slightly higher octane fuel and much tuning of the MTH chip by OB at Chiplogic.

I eventually sold the A3T minus the 63mm exhaust, H&R drop springs and roof and boot spoilers and side-skirts (silver), so if anyone is interested, I will e-mail pics and prices - makes a really nice visual package, which is all Sportech can do well. The drop springs are an absolute must priority.

I now have a 2001 S3, which I am planning a lot more carefully, including water-injection, so well done Thierry, way to go - great octane-booster and coolant for our hot climate (please provide details to director@gaiaresearch.co.za). Please address enquiries for A3T parts to same).

I like the idea of an A3/S3 club page - have tons of pics and tech to share - so who does what? Anyone caught speeding in SA? I was bust at 201km/h in a 100km/h zone, slowing down to turn into my driveway. Very lucky to get off with a R1500 fine. I now run a Laser Echo for laser traps, useless against gatso though.

Nice to see my compatriots active. Maybe we can look at group buys in future.

Thierry, please detail your experience with the Aquamist system and your other mods.

Joe, definitely Chiplogic if not a DIY. OB knows his stuff. Upsolute folded here. Abt have arrived.

Jabba, what you done to your S3, and what is planned?

Greendemon, you appear to have been ripped of. My car did 106.4kW at the wheels standard on reef fuel with 200kms on the clock. Contact me and let me know what you think you had done and what you were charged for the thought. I would like to help.

Nice to have met you all.

Love

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Hi guys

Whoops?
Crossed my Newton meter outputs. Should read:
Chiplogic achieving 129.6kW (313.7Nm) compared to Sportech's 127.5kW (310.9Nm).

Regards
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Hi,

I think the idea of an A3/S3 club in SA is brilliant. I am no gearhead but now that I have such a great car I am definitely trying to learn all that I can about it, and from what I have been reading there seem to be some very knowledgeable people in SA.

Stuart, thanks for the reality check, I though that the kw's were pretty good on my car but obviously they aren't [Frown] I would really appreciate some help trying to figure out whats been done to it...pity you are in Knysna though it is a bit of a drive from JHB. I think i will take it to Chiplogic to have it checked out as everyone seems to be in agreement that he is the best around.

I did the new plumbing (Aluminium piping and silicone bends - Topsport Developments) after I bought the car, but the other work (Chip, exhaust, styling) had been done by the previous owner. Will let you know what OB has to say after I take it to Chiplogic.

So how do we organise this club..any ideas [Confused] Does any one from SA have web development skills...maybe a page would be a good place to start.

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quote:
Originally posted by Thierry:
Send e-mail if U are interested I will give details on the mods.



I would like to know about the water injection system you had installed...what is you e-mail address..checked you profile but it wasn't listed.

GD

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Hi Guys

Don't worry GreenDemon , I don't know too much
technical stuff about cars myself,but this forum
has really got me interested.

Stuart , when u say ABT has arrived ,do u mean that they have setup workshops in SA [Confused] I don't know if it's necessary to start an A3/S3
Club. I think we should just be the Audi-Sport.net
South Africa Group.We can communicate through this board and if we have enough guys we can start doing group buys etc.

But I do think a local website is a good idea.
I am currently doing some work for MWeb, so I have some friends that could help put together a very nice site for us.Does anyone else want to get
involved with ideas or helping build the site or
should I just go ahead and get some pages built
for everyone to take a look at.

Jabba I am very jealous of the guys in Cape Town,
u must have so much fun on all the great twisty roads with great scenery their in CT [Wink]

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HI guys,
My email add: "thierag@iafrica.com" I have a web page based on my car with all the mods and pictures of the different mods just need somebody to host it at a good price. Q recap: 63mm exh from turbo to twin 57 mm tailpipes smooth clean bends, 6 bar fuel reg, Water inj from .7bar 50/50 water alcohol,Boost shows 1.3 under ideal cond, OB chip, KN filter, Airbox mod, H&R suspension kit, Inner wheel liner mod Same as S3 / S4, Pzero rubber, all these mods were done within 2 months of delivery. NO BADGES, Roof spoiler and front spoiler (Sportech copy and cheaper)

Drop me a line and i will send details and pics

Let start the ball rolling I will assist with loads of input and ideas. Had a Renault Owners club in the early 80's I am a old man with a very young outlook in live. (recycled teenager)


Now we cooking with 102 octane.

Take care and watch the idiots.

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Hi Thierry

I have already started getting prices for hosting the A3/S3 site.

I can get prices for u if u are looking to set up a personal website for yourself.If all u want is a site about your beast then why not make it part of the A3/S3 site.

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Dear Greendemon

A3 1.8T's are factory rated at 110kW at the wheels on 95 octane fuel at the coast and probably average 105 on the reef on 93 octane. It would therefore appear that you are running largely stock, with the other mods not making an appreciable difference. The normally aspirated A3's run 92kW on 95 octane at the coast, and probably average 85kW on 93 octane at the reef, so the guy who tested your car is also confused.

What may have happened, is that your battery may have run flat, or been disconnected, or a fuse popped and replaced, or some such power break to the chip, resetting it to the standard parameters. These chips do this. They need to be reset with the VAG-com(puter)in such an eventuality. OB may or may not have the ready means to reset you, seeing as you have a different chip. With time, he could probably sort it.

You may however find that they did f---all hoping that the modified exhaust note would lead you to believe that you were really cooking. Placebo is powerful. Deny it at our peril.

Let me know if I can be of help.

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